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. >> it's timed with the country hitting the fiscal cliff, $500 billion of tax increases and spending cuts. scheduled to take effect in january. ill led to the super committee to create work out cuts of $1.# trillion. on defense, 9.4% cut for every program across the board regardless of merit. in 2013 trimming $3.9 billion from defense operation and maintenance. air force and navy would be cut by $4.2 billion. afghan security forces chopped by $1.3 billion. and embassy money and consulate would lose $1.2 billion. asked about the spending cut deal, the top democrats suggested they're finished. >> that is part of a big bold and balanced package that has big cuts. we voted for $1 trillion in cuts. revenues are needed and job creation is essential to reduce deficit. >> today, pelosi clarified she was not referring to the sequester. unless there is action in a hurry, there is a risk national security could be affected in what is a takous world. >> i'm worried because the only part of the federal government that obama administration appears to be willing to cut is the defense department. >> educ
on spending cuts within the budget plan to be included in the fiscal cliff talks. >> can you also look in the camera and say dear democrats, both for and include some of the spending cuts in this deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. because that's not what they're doing right now. should they include this? >> yes, and i know that democrats except that this has to be a balanced package that includes revenues and cuts and spending cuts. >> yet months ago, that ws voted down 99 to zero. earlier this week, the number two democrat in the senate, dick durbin, insisted maj spending cuts and entitlement reform will not be part of these talks. nancy pelosi has been noncommittal about whether cuts will be in the deal. still, they are trying to breathe into the talks with vice present biden shopping avenue costco in washington, picking up a big-screen tv and an apple pie and insisting he is optimistic of the deal. >> i am. all these folks in the store. they are ing to make a difference. reporter: a phone call last night betwee speaker boehner and the president was very curt. it signaled that the presi
they stave off the fiscal cliff. spending cuts at the end of the fiscal year. it has really shocked republicans this year on capitol hill. they say it calls for, for one thing, $1.6 trillion in new tax hikes over a decade. it is also stimulus spending and the spending cuts. both sides are necessary to reduce the deficit. those the president would largely tackle later perhaps next year. >> first despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. listen, this is not a game. jobs are on the line. the american economy is on the line and this is a moment for adult leadership. >> perhaps most su prirprising the white house proposal to get the president just about unlimited power to raise the nation's debt sealiceiling and w more and more money unless they reject. these will be tough negotiations ahead. we got a little sample of this yesterday from senate majority leader talking to john boehner. >>
combination of tax rate increases and spending cuts now known as the fiscal cliff. >> jon: oh, yeah, that, that was-- (laughter) ladies and gentlemen, the fiscal-- cliff. >> it's the subject of tonight's cliffpocalypsema get-- mageddonocaust, our nation's solvable budget problem. (laughter) (cheers and applause) >> jon: i actually hurt my shoulder just there. it's like i'm 50. so we're now just a little more than a month away from going over the fiscal cliff which is, of course, as we all, what is the fiscal cliff again? >> a toxic combination of spending cuts and tax increases that kicks in at the beginning of next year. >> on january 1s its bush tax cuts will eck prior within the alternative minimum continuation would quick in, hiking taxes for more than half married couples with two children. the payroll tax cut was also expire. >> emergency unemployment benefits end, and 984 billion dollars in the automatic cuts in both defense and domestic budgets are triggered. >> it very likely that we're all going die. >> jon: why did they put that last provision in. see, here is what happened. tw
that would avoid the fiscal cliff. that is $1.2 trillion in automatic budget cuts and $600 billion in tax hikes that would result from the expiration on december 31, the consequences would simply be devastating. the economic impact on the country and the american people would mean the loss of hundreds of thousands, if not millions of jobs. the very likely onset of yet another recession. the white house timothy geithner on capitol hill today. he went there empty-handed to meet the party leaders. house speaker john boehner who has already offered to raise tax revenue finds himself not in a negotiation, but rather competing in the white house media campaign. this is how speaker boehner reacted earlier today to the demands of the white house that were laid out by timothy geithner in a closed-door meeting. the treasury secretary reiterating the president's call for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue and timothy geithner currently offering nothing in return. in lieu of federal spending. >> first, despite the claims that the president supports a balanced approach, democrats have yet to get serious
yet. we all need to focus very closely on the fiscal cliff and sequestration cuts that it includes. the impacts on san francisco could be devastating. until we have more clarity, what congress as a whole might or might not do we will need to remain vigilant about protecting our reserves and the city's financial position. that said i'm encouraged by the reelection of president obama and certainly for the leadership that leader pelosi has given and will continue to give. we will need their leadership as the president must quickly face the challenge of his second term, avoiding this fiscal cliff. in august of 2011 congress passed the budget control act which threatened automatic spending cuts if congress failed to come up with a planned deficit reduction by 2013. these cuts are what we refer to as sequestration. this would mean an across the board cut of between 7% and 10% of all defense and non-defense federal spending irrespective of policy or its impact on everyday people. these cuts would be absolutely devastating to our national and local economies. our -- show that sequestration
to do some christmas shopping, sort of. he went to a suburban costco to talk about the fiscal cliff and tax cuts. he took photos with shoppers, chatted up the staff and was followed around the store by a huge crowd. his favorite part, like many of us who go to costco, all those free samples. he did get around to talk tax cuts. >> i think it's important that congress acts now. i mean, right now. all that needs to be done is extend the middle class tax cut. >> he bought cookies, children's books, an apple pie and a 32 inch tv. he declined an offer to buy a set of tires saying, i don't drive any more. >>> the driver behind the crash has a bizarre explanation for why it happened. >>> good evening, i'm chief meteorologist jeff ranieri in the bay area weather center. we're tracking the latest storm moving across california. a flash flood watch. and if you're headed to the sierra, watch out, winter storm warning in place, where we could see six to ten inches on your full forecast coming up. >>> now it's our turn. californians will be able to play one of the biggest lottery games in the cou
. secretary reich if we hit the fiscal cliff would it be devastating and hence we must do cuts in social security and medicare? >> first of all the fiscal cliff is a misnomer. it really is not a cliff. we can go over it and a lot of people won't feel much, particularly if democrats do what they say they're going to do, and that is pass a bill that makes the tax cuts retroactive to january 1 for the middle class. that's what democrats would do, giving them maximum bargaining with the republicans. we don't have a debt crisis. that's another might geology that a lot of people, republicans and media are talking about. there is no the a budget deficit crisis right now. in the years beginning 10 years from now, we will have very large budget deficits, but those are because of health care costs rising projected to rise very, very high and that's going to hurt medicare and medicaid, not because medicare and medicaid are the problems, but because underlying those medicare and medicaid problems programs are problems with rising health care. they're going to be problems for the whole country unless
. the president makes an offer to avoid the fiscal cliff. lso where are the cuts? we are live in washington with the details. look at that guy. a construction worker walks in a convenience store checks his number and walks out perhaps a multimillionaire. we'll tell it to you straight away. >> officer and a gentleman. you will hear from the cop who spent his hard earned cash to buy a pair of socks and shoes. he pet them on him. "fox and friends" starts right now. ♪ ♪ ho, ho hompt >> indeed. rick it is not christmas time here in new york city until rick descends down one of the tallest buildings in connecticut and there he is. screen left from last year screen right. when he bumped into the building. good morning to you rick. >> some traditions like fruit cake that shouldn't happen . maybe it is one of those tradition. you do it once and this is a building here. give you a shot from the top going down. it gets a little dark there. it gives you an individual. tan ford downtown height lights and they start it off by santa going over this with elvescan on sunday night. last couple of years w
. >> tonight, richard wolffe on today's nonsense from republicans and where a deal on the fiscal cliff stands. and former health insurance executive wendell potter on what obama's proposed $340 billion in medicare cuts will mean for seniors. >>> vice president joe biden stumps for the middle class at a retail store that treats its workers right. i'll talk costco and fiscal cliff with steve greenhouse of "the new york times." >>> plus hostess executives tank their company and cost the people their jobs. so why are they still demanding millions of dollars in bonuses? >>> and we'll tell you how senator john mccain fits in with congressman louie gohmert's latest conspiracy theory. >> this administration sent planes and bombs and support to oust gadhafi so al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood could take over libya. >>> good to have you with us tonight, folks. republicans are walking tall in public but hanging their heads behind closed doors. john boehner struck a defiant tone during a news conference today. he blamed the president and democrats for stalling negotiations on a debt deal. >> despite t
with sending the economy over the fiscal cliff. >> the speaker's remarks riled the left and provoked this response from senate majority leader harry reid. >> he says that democrats have got to get serious about cuts, spending cuts. where is the disconnect, then? >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him. okay? >> with only a handful of legislative days left on the congress's calendar before the looming fiscal cliff becomes a raw reality, will the president and house gop find a way over the latest road black and back to the bargaining table? >> why did the white house decide to have this as their opening volley when they knew the response would be a negative one that they drew? >> was it hardball opening? yeah, of course it was. the question is, what's the counteroffer? >> i would imagine there has to -- tim geithner is too smart of a guy in this administration is filled with smart people. they must have a serious strategic plan. >> let's get straight into this and joining me now is senator barbara boxer, democrat from california. senator, it is great to have you with me
to raise the nation's borrowing limit would have to be matched by spending cuts in the fiscal cliff deal. >> as i told the president a couple weeks ago, there's a lot of things i've wanted in my life, but almost all of them had a price tag attached to them. i continue to believe that any increase in the debt limit has to be accompanied by spending reductions that meet or exceed it. >> asking that a political price be paid in order for congress to do its job to ensure that the united states of america pays its bills and does not default for the first time in its history is deeply irresponsible. it was deeply irresponsible in the summer of 2011, and it would be deeply irresponsible if we were to see that kind of approach taken again. >> with boehner calling on the white house to lay out specific spending cuts, senate majority leader harry reid offered his own response to the house speaker. >> he says that democrats have got to get serious about cuts, spending cuts. where's the disconnect, then? >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him. okay? >> huh. don't understand his brain
the funding might get cut if we go over the fiscal cliff, doesn't that create a massive stumbling block for you guys, what you're trying to do? >> there are two areas you are raising. it will be shifting asia. china is not cutting their commitments, they are increasing their commitments and india is dramatically increasing, singapore is dramatically -- the uk is investing more. we are talking about where is the center of innovation, where will the company's -- it is not that it is not going to exist but it will shift -- liz: we will lose our leadership. >> we will lose our leadership of we don't recommit. liz: are you worried we are not turning out enough doctors and scientists in this nation? >> we are probably not turning out enough research scientists with clinical expertise and i am afraid some young people who are interested in this, do i want to take on all those risks, people struggling to keep laboratories going and maybe decide to do something else. the most important resource we have is the talent, to be able to recruit and retain that talent is the most important job i have,
ourselves about to go off the fiscal cliff with the automatic spending cuts, in part is because back in 2011, they wanted to raise the debt ceiling and the republicans said you cannot do it unless we do spending cuts. we cannot just do deficit spending. so they agree, they cut this deal, now the democrats are going to the republicans and saying, forget that. let's just in the position to get rid of it. what on earth would make them think that republicans would agree to that? >> because the president thinks he has a mandate from the whole country. he thinks he can get anything he wants. i am sure that alan colmes loves this idea. here are the problems. the congress has the authority to authorize the debt. they also have the authority to authorize the bill that pays the debt. so now the president wants to take that away. this guy has shown a tendency to say that i don't need congress. i can pass laws with a stroke of a pen on executive orders. he doesn't need the supreme court because he declares laws unconstitutional, like doma. he says he wants an unlimited credit card, and you all will have
, protect american jobs, and protect the middle class from the fiscal cliff. without spending cuts and entitlement reform, it will be impossible to address our country's debt crisis and get our economy going again and to create jobs. right now all eyes are on the white house. the country does not need a victory lap. it needs leadership. it is time for the president and congressional democrats to tell the american people what spending cuts they're willing to make. with that, i will take a few questions. [indiscernible] >> it has been very clear over the last year and a half. i have talked to the president about many of them. you can look at our budgets where we outlined specific proposals that we passed last year and the year before. we know what the menu is. we do not know what the white house is willing to do to get serious about solving our debt crisis. [indiscernible] >> i am not going to get into details, but it is very clear what kind of spending cuts need to occur, but we have no idea what the white house is willing to do. >> most public statements have been optimistic. we ar
day closer today to automatic tax hikes and spending cuts, the so-called "fiscal cliff". the president took to the road, while republicans warned there's a deadlock in efforts to reach a deficit deal. >> now, of course, santa delivers everywhere. i've been keeping my own naughty and nice lists for washington. >> warner: the president chose a seasonal setting, a toy factory in hatfield, pennsylvania, and holiday imagery to press again for extending tax cuts for the middle class. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1. i mean, i... i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. >> no. >> that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> warner: in washington, republicans portrayed the road trip as so much humbug, at a time, they said, when negotiations are going nowhere. >> there's a stalemate. let's not kid ourselves. >> warner: house speaker john boehner said republicans remain willing to raise revenues, but not by raising tax rates. and he charged the white house isn't
the middle-class tax cut. if we go over the fiscal cliff, it has been estimated $200 billion less will be spent next year. you will have people having their taxes go up every year. we have a lot we have to settle. there is one thing we have to agree on. the middle tax cut should be made permanent. we are fully prepared to work with our republican colleagues to make sure we do with the rest of the fiscal cliff. that would take $900 million of the clifford now. look a round here. consumer confidence is growing. the last thing we need to do is- that by not extending the middle-class tax cuts. thank you for shopping with me. thank you very much. >> president obama hosted mitt romney for lunch on monday. gov. romney is said to have congratulated the president and the two ate lunch and had a discussion that lasted an hour. >> congressional historian norma rnstein explains why congress is pursuing. >> the program began, he was when the the advises, to document the conditions under which people were living. this was when we did not have television. we had radio, but a lot of places didn't
to benefit if lawmakers get a deal on this payroll tax cut and if they -- on the fiscal cliff, rather, and if they don't, it could harm consumer can ha confidence and in turn businesses like this one in pennsylvania. but, chris, also expect republicans to sort of lob a counterpunch today. i expect them to sort of highlight a business nearby that could be harmed if taxes do go up on those making $250,000 or more because, of course, that is for some small businesses their budget level. chris? >> and one thing, a quick follow-up, did the white house -- do you have any indication did the white house expect the reaction they got on capitol hill yesterday? i assume with this proposal, which much of it isn't new. this is essentially the president's budget proposal from last year, that they didn't think john boehner was going to say, that sounds good, let's do that. but did they expect the dismissiveness and john boehner's tone in his press conference yesterday? did that catch them by surprise at all? >> reporter: well, i think the white house democrats were a little surprised by the backlash
want to see republicans and democrats work together to avoid the fiscal cliff, we can bring you two lawmakers who are open to cutting a deal before the end of the year. with me are members from both sides of the aisle, u.s. congressman lee terry, a republican from nebraska, and u.s. congressman jerry connolly, a democrat from nearby southern virginia. but first, i want to start with you. you told the "omaha world herald" this about republicans, we're screwed either way. we have no leverage in these discussions. congressman, what did you mean by that? >> what i mean by that is that the president wants us to take a tax vote before he's willing to talk about anything else cutting or reforming, and republicans just aren't going to do that. so what he's doing is setting us up to be the fall people for going over the fiscal cliff. frankly, going over the fiscal cliff is a win for the president. so either way we're going to get it. >> but i don't see why that's true because -- first of all, the president has talked around what kind of cuts he wants to do in nondefense discretionary and abo
stick points over the fiscal cliff debate is whether to cut entitlements. dean baker says that's not the reason for our deficit problems. so they should not be on the table right now. we also have j.d. foster of the heritage foundation who says mr. baker's numbers don't add up. good to see you, gentlemen. thanks for joining us. dean, make the case. >> well wit, it's very simple. if you look at projections, we had low-budget deficits, 1.2% gdp until the economy collapsed the housing bubble. the reason why we have large budget deficits today is pure and simple. the economy collapsed and the deficits are what's supporting demand. why are we suddenly running around like chickens with our heads cut off to cut social security and medicare when those programs are needed more than ever? >> so you think we should keep spending on those programs? >> i think we need to protect retirees. they took a big hit when their house prices collapsed to then turn around and whack them again by taking away their social security and medicare doesn't make sense. >> i'm going to come back to that. j.d.,
on the stump pressing republicans to cut a deal averting the fiscal cliff. >> it's like the lump of coal you get for christmas. it's a scrouge christmas. >> there's a stalemate, let's not kid ourself rs. >> reporter: things got tense after secretary geithner visited capitol hill thursday to present what republicans are calling an unreasonable proposal. it includes $1.6 trillion in new taxes. in part, through raising rates on the top 2%. and lips loopholes and reductions. $50 billion in stimulus next year, and $400 billion in medicare and other entitlement savings to be worked out. >> i think the proposal delivered here by secretary geithner was not a serious proposal. >> they want this extra spending that's greater than the amount willing to cut. >> democrats say it was just a starting point. and one republicans should counter. >> there will be prolonged negotiations. and all of us are going to have to get out of our comfort zones to make that happen. >> cnn learned last week the republicans gave the white house their own starting position, which democrats consider unbalanced. extending all
the administration's proposal in the fiscal cliff negotiations. medicare and other entitlements would be cut by $400 billion over 10 years. let's bring in wendell potter, to sort it out. mr. potter is a columnist for the center for public integrity and "the huffington post" and author of the book "deadly spin." wendell, great to have you back with us here on "the ed show." >> thank you, ed. >> sort this out for us. when the white house says it has in its budget a cut of $340 billion, maybe up to $400 billion, is that going to hit beneficiaries? is that going to affect people that go in and see the doctor? >> no, not nearly as much as it would if they were to raise the eligibility age to 67 which is not on the table and it shouldn't be. or cutting benefits. and these cuts or reductions in payments are not targeted to doctors. at least at this point. they are to hospitals and to nursing homes and home health agencies. as you said, drugmakers. and these are areas that the medicare payment advisory commission has long said need to be -- these are cuts that should be made and has been, need to be made fo
time, we're getting a look at what the white house is offering to stop the fiscal cliff stalemate. drastic mandatory tax hikes and spending cuts will kick in with the new year unless the white house and the republicans can reach a deal. for weeks, gop lawmakers have said we're just waiting for the white house to give details, specifics, some numbers. well, tonight that's happened. the white house is calling their bluff and they've laid out how they want to cut the debt. jessica yellin is over at the white house for us tonight with new developments. jessica, what are the specifics of this offer tonight? >> reporter: hi, wolf. according to senior officials on both sides of the aisle, the president is asking for $1.6 trillion in new taxes. that includes raising taxes for families who make $250,000 or more. you'll recognize that as a pledge from his campaign. and it also includes limiting deductions and loopholes as well as other changes to capital gains and dividends taxes. well, that is the headline for republicans, wolf, who say it is far more money in tax rates than they ever expe
'm calling concerning the fiscal cliff. i was wondering -- funding is going to be cut off such as unemployment. i'd like to know where do it stand and what is it being done? host: an update this morning on the former president george h.w. bush this according to reports out of houston saying he was in the hospital thursday for treatment of a lingering cough. he is 88 years old and has been in and out of the hospital recently because of complications due to wrongitis. they say expect the president to be released on saturday. he has been under hospital care for nearly a week. this is the republican line. hello? steve? good morning. caller: yes. good morning. pedro, off question and comment. one problem is -- completely out of control. and they continue to -- don't want to touch -- in this country. because the prices of the medical are too -- government -- i don't want to -- medicare, keep complaining about -- and because the hospital -- and they never contribute that much noun medicare. and they put all the money they could toward the working -- if you add them up, it's not t
travels to pennsylvania friday to talk about his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. the event is part of the white house's effort to cut public support to end the bush era tax cuts for incomes on $250,000 and above. it will be shown at noon eastern on c-span 3. >> washington worked his way up and went to harvard law school. he emigrated out west to the lead minee industry was in its heyday. he arrived by stagecoach, by train and arrived in this muddy mining town, boarded himself in a log cabin and slowly worked his way up and became a successful lawyer and got involved politically, ran for congress, search for 8 terms. he then befriended abraham lincoln, obviously from illinois, and ulysses s. grant, and as they were on the rise, he stayed with them as a close confidante and colleague during the civil war. after grant was elected president, he appointed washburn secretary of state. at that time, he became ill. his family feared for his life. after 10 days, he submitted his resignation to president grants. grant regretfully accepted his resignation. over the next several months, he reg
the fiscal cliff will cause holiday shopping to plummet. >> let's give a christmas present to the american people. >> reporter: but the mood here on capitol hill is anything but festive. both sides say the tax hikes and spending cuts due to kick in at year end are unacceptable, they just don't believe each other. >> members of his own party seem quite comfortable of sending the economy over the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: the president sent timothy geithner to the hill with had $4 trillion plan. it includes 1.6 trillion in new taxes on upper income americans. 400 billion in cuts to medicare and other entitlement programs. and $50 billion in new spending on infrastructure and unemployment benefits. the biggest stumbling block remain. the new taxes on the wealthiest americans. while some republicans here in congress are hinting they might be open to the idea the majority seemed opposed. >> raising rates on the so-called rich is the holy grail of liberalism. their aim isn't job creation, they are interested in wealth distribution. >> reporter: the white house insists the president won't sign a
is willing to do. >> beware, there's a fiscal cliff ahead, but there's still no plan from the president on how to cut spending. >> made a mistake, but i didn't. almost 18, almost 20 years ago. >> a former democratic representative who was convicted of having sex with an underage girl says he's back, and he's running for congress. all of that, plus a shocking new report that gitmo detainees may be coming to america. "hannity" starts right here, right now. new troubles for u.n. ambassador susan rice this as questions surface about her time at the state department when al-qaeda bombed two african embassies in the late '90s, and how the situation parallels what happened prior to the terror attack in benghazi that left four americans dead. yesterday republican senator susan collins met with ambassador rice for 90 minutes, and after the closed-door meeting the senator questioned rice's role at the state department back in 1998 when she served as the assistant secretary of state for african affairs in the clinton administration. watch this. >> those bombings in 1998 resulted in the loss of lif
are calling president obama's offer to get off the fiscal cliff ludicrous and absurd. they are insisting on spending cuts. president held a campaign rally, toy factory in pennsylvania. she characterizing the opposition as a handful of republicans who want to hold middle class tax cuts hostage. what happens if a deal does not get done in time? we'll look at what sequestration really means. it appears susan rice had access to the president's daily brief before she made her misleading statement about the cause of the september 11 attacks. now back to my colleagues at "the five." ♪ ♪ >> brian: this is a senior and has autism and other development issues and a t place kicker, which is extraordinary. having a rough season. but anthony led the team to upset victory. here is how it sounded. [ cheering ] >> brian: this game-winning field goal is a hit on youtube ever since. what is amazing, this kid loves rutgers. he used to sit in the stands. developmentally around 12 years old. going to high school and beloved by everybody. sitting in the stands watching rutgers play and watched rutgers win
of refusing to talk specifics about how to avoid the fiscal cliff. the two sides traded charges of bad faith as year-end tax hikes and spending cuts moved another day closer. on the face of it there seemed to be little movement today. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> sreenivasan: treasury secretary timothy geithner and legislative chief rob nabors arrived at the capitol this morning, for meetings with congressional leaders. house speaker john boehner also spoke to president obama on the phone last night. he said he wanted to know where the administration would rein in spending, but that he had heard nothing new. >> i was hopeful we'd see a specific plan for cutting spending. we sought to find out today what the president is really willing to do. listen, i remain hopeful that productive conversations in the days ahead can be had but the white house has to get serious. >> sreenivasan: senate minority leader mitch mcconnell echoed that complaint. in a statement, he said, "today, they took a step backward and
his chief negotiator tim geithner to capitol hill to work on a "fiscal cliff" deal. house speaker john boehner came out of his meeting with the treasury secretary demanding the white house get serious about spending cuts. >> no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> reporter: if a compromise isn't reached soon, automatic tax hikes and steep budget cuts will kick in january 1. geithner moved from one end of the capitol to the other encouraging lawmakers to sign off on an extension of middle class tax cuts now. democrats say their position is clear and they want a serious offer from republicans. >> the american people want us to avoid the "fiscal cliff" with a balanced approach. >> reporter: geithner is here in the halls of congress trying to clear some big hurdles with republicans. once a deal is closer president obama will take over the talks. so far independent senator joe lieberman is not encouraged. >> if we go over the cliff it's going to send the country back into recession. >> reporter: vice president joe
, we're in this situation because congress came up with what they're calling the fiscal cliff now and they're calling it the fiscal cliff because they don't want to e embrace either the tax increases or spending cuts and i think it's foolish to think this congress can come up with a better deal. >> you know what's interesting, to eric's point, there is a great irony in this that the democrats are saying we've got to raise taxes and the fiscal cliff does both. just not in the way anybody wants it, so if they can't do that, how are they going to find a way they can all agree on? >> the superfailed committee. this is a giant hatchet as opposed to a scalpel. >> it was designed to fail. >> i agree, but the real solution and real irony is going to be the ultimate deal's going to look like the obama boehner grand bargain that was negotiated and almost done in the summer of 2011. the fact that we couldn't make that deal then i think's a tragedy for the country. one of the thing's it did was lead to that aaa downgrading. that was unnecessary. >> let me just follow up on this point of what
of resistance from democrats about significantly cutting entitlements. meanwhile when you look at the fiscal cliff, no one wants to go over it, but it would result in increasing taxes on the wealthy and the cuts that would be made would predominantly fall in defense, an area democrats are more comfortable with cutting than entitlements. do you think democrats would rather go over the cliff than take a bad deal on medicare and medicaid? >> well, sure if you say take a bad deal. but look, i think every side in this negotiation has to understand they're not going to get exactly what we want. if we are going to ask republicans to vote for over a trillion dollars in increased revenue, and we know that's going to include some raising of the rates, maybe all the way to where the president wants or part of the way, if we ask them to do that, we have to give them something to take back to their constituencies and that will mean serious cuts in entitlement, restructured entitlements, sbiltsmeentitleme reform, and it can't come from just the providers. i know our base isn't going to like that, but it's
cliff on new year's day. that would mean automatic spending cuts and the expiration of tax cuts for most americans. president obama sent his top negotiator to the treasury secretary. tim geithner to capitol hill today. he met with leaders of both parties. republicans say they made no progress. and surprise, each party blames the other. >> the democrats have yet to get serious about real spending cuts. and, secondly, no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> republicans know where we stand. we have said it, we have said it, we have said it so many times the president said the same thing. it's been weeks, at least two weeks since we met at the white house and are still waiting for a serious offer from the republics. >> shepard: after his meeting with secretary geithner the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said of administration officials quote today they took a step backward moving away from consensus and closer to that cliff. ed henry is live at the white house for us tonight. ed we are getting new informatio
own party seem quite comfortable with sending the economy over the fiscal cliff. no substantive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. >> speaker boehner doesn't want to propose spending cuts, so now he's trying to pressure the white house to do it. >> there's been no serious discussion of spending cuts so far. and unless there is, there's a real danger of going off the fiscal cliff. >> a reporter asked senate majority leader harry reid about speaker boehner's comments. >> he says that democrats have got to get serious about cuts, spending cuts. where is the disconnect then? >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him. okay? >> and, of course, another day more republicans dumping grover norquist. among nebraska and is iowa republicans, most of them told the world herald this week they could support a broad budget agreement, even if the deal ends up including higher tax revenues. i won't have a problem with letting those tax rates go up, representative mike simpson said to reuters. but new york congressman chr
of spending cuts so far. and unless there is, there's a real danger of going off the fiscal cliff. >> a reporter asked senate majority leader harry reid about speaker boehner's comments. >> he says that democrats have got to get serious about cuts, spending cuts. where is the disconnect then? >> i don't understand his brain, so you should ask him. okay? >> and, of course, another day more republicans dumping grover norquist. among nebraska and is iowa republicans, most of them told the world herald this week they could support a broad budget agreement, even if the deal ends up including higher tax revenues. i won't have a problem with letting those tax rates go up, representative mike simpson said to reuters. but new york congressman chris gibson found the most creative way out of his relationship with grover. his spokesman released a statement reading, the congressman signed the pledge as a candidate in 2010 for the 20th congressional district. carson gibson doesn't plan to re-sign it for the 19th congressional district, which he now represents. the pledge is to your constituents
, or fiscal cliff 1.0. tax cuts were about to expire. the democrats did not want to extend all of the tax cuts. harry reid was trying to create an impression that it was the time that republicans were obstructing the process, obstructing what the democrats wanted to do. what he was trying to do was set the agenda and create an environment so he could win politically. he set up after this quotation a rare weekend session in the senate where he had two votes . no republican amendments were allowed, and he showed republicans were obstructionists and would not go along with what he thought was good for the country. this was a ploy designed to shift attention from the democrats' ability to go along with what republicans wanted to do to republican saying they did not want to do what democrats wanted to do. he was seeking to control the agenda. that is the real issue here. there are times when minorities of both parties will obstruct the majority because they need or want to. the real issue in the debate today is one of agenda control. -- we have a way to think about this. in political science, if yo
. that plan from the president in trying to resolve the fiscal cliff asks for, $1.6 trillion in new revenue. and that's supposed to come from raising taxes on the wealthiest. the president's plan asks for an extension of the payroll tax cut. and an extension of unemployment insurance benefits. it asks for a deferral of those automatic sequester cuts to defense spending and to local -- to domestic spend being. and it also asks, i love this one, a multi-year stimulus package, including $50 billion next year, much of that is going to go to recipients creating an infrastructure bank. the president also wants to refinance under water mortgages. and permanently increase the deposit limit without congressional approval every time. the president in bringing this list forward in his plan to resolve the fiscal cliff is just really going for it in this negotiation. he's aiming for the fences, and he has a mandate folks and he's not afraid to use it. here is representative jim chicago burn elaborate on the ground that theme today. >>
leadership says he thinks president obama wants to go over the fiscal cliff by proposing higher taxes, no spending cuts and no plans to save entitlements. with president obama going to pennsylvania today, the house republican whip, kevin mccarthy's office put out a video profiling a small business nearby in pennsylvania that would get hurt by a tax hike. >> i'm jerry gorsky from an engineering company. however good or bad we do is my income. this notion of $250,000 being top 2% or the wealthy people in america ignores the way most small businesses work in america. >> reporter: i mentioned president obama is going out on the trail, if you will in pennsylvania to sell his arguments. one would expect we would hear some sort of response from speaker john boehner after that. jon. jon: what are the democrats saying? i mean about these g.o.p. complaints? what is your response? >> reporter: they are saying republicans if you don't like the president's plan, where is your own plan? they are asking for specifics on revenue in terms of tax revenue. they are also asking for specifics on what repu
better next year. that's where you want to investivities let's put the fiscal cliff aside, because they are not going to let the tax cuts expire. i'm here, i've been in politics for a long time. they won't do it. where would you invest? you sound pretty optimistic. where would you invest? >> i would say this, this fiscal inclusiver cliff, you have to use the weakness to buy. you're not chasing the strength. housing for sure, but i would also say go to where the companies reported in the third quarter, where did they deliver in the face of all this? who beat? >> where were they? >> starbucks, facebook, amazon, emare son electric, so there are several good companies doing goodening in the face of this. i'm not that crazy about special dividends. i would much rather see them invest in their business. >> so the techie companies, they're not going to do one-time dividends. what you're saying is don't chase that. >> yeah, you don't buy a stock because they're going to do the special dividends. >> would you by trying -- you mention emerson electric. >> we own that stock. we own caterpilla
for coming by. >> now the fight over fiscal cliff, president obama stumping campaign style to prevent fast approaching spending cuts and expiring tax breaks and a potential economic disaster a month ago and toured a toy factory in pennsylvania, the company behind lincoln logs. the white house says the trip highlights the response extending the bush era tax cuts for everyone but now for any amount of money you make over $250,000. so everyone get as tax break but not anything over $250,000. that is the company's core customers and flames republicans for holding up the progress. republicans point the finger at the president. >> it is not acceptable to me or to you, i don't think, for a handful of the republicans in congress to hold middle-class tax cuts hostage. >> the white house took three weeks to respond with any kind of a proposal. to my disappointment, it wasn't a serious one. >>shepard: speaker boehner referred to meetings with the treasury secretary geithner. republicans called plan he layed out a step backwards, so much that top senate republican were mcconnell burst into laugh laugh
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